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Postby torben » Wed May 17, 2017 7:28 am

After almost 80,000 miles towing on our wonderful roads :evil: our Cedar Creek as a PRECAUTIONARY measure I am having the leaf springs replaced today. Years ago on our other 5th wheel we had a spring break, trust me if you can help it you never want that to happen...... We have a lot of trips planned this summer, so I figured this was a good time........Leaving for Idaho on the 31st of this month then FROG and on to the International in Maine and of course after the International we have to get back to California......
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby Danny & Cheryl » Wed May 17, 2017 9:03 am

Torben you should consider the MORryde Independent suspension with the Disc brakes
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby Chuck & Sue » Wed May 17, 2017 10:31 am

Danny, did you get the Moryde suspension and the disc brakes put on at Moryde in Goshen?
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby Danny & Cheryl » Wed May 17, 2017 12:21 pm

Yes, it is a two day install. You stay inside your rv inside their shop overnite, and they provide you a really nice lunch. they have elect hook ups in their parking lot if you arrive early. it isn't one size fits all, each install is a custom job. I went with the 7K setup
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby frozen tundra » Wed May 17, 2017 7:04 pm

MORryde with the brakes is like $4-5 grand isn't it? What kind of warranty do they provide. Is there a noticeable difference in the ride? I know disk brakes are great because I've had them for a few years. Does MORryde use parts that are available in most auto repair shops

Oops, sorry Torben. New springs are sometimes needed, better safe than sorry. Never thought a hanger bolt would brake in half until I seen George's blog, I'm sure you also replaced those. I replaced my springs last year, sagging drivers side.
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby Danny & Cheryl » Thu May 18, 2017 5:55 am

The IS is custom made at MORRyde with parts that they only fabricate, the brakes are Kodiak and the brake pads are available any where, they were used on most GM vehicles produced in the 80's and 90's. Warranty is 5 years or 50,000 miles. You will see a Noticeable improvement in the Ride. 7K is $5,700 8K is $6,200
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby RamblinReck » Thu May 18, 2017 6:32 pm

Danny & Cheryl wrote:The IS is custom made at MORRyde with parts that they only fabricate, the brakes are Kodiak and the brake pads are available any where, they were used on most GM vehicles produced in the 80's and 90's. Warranty is 5 years or 50,000 miles. You will see a Noticeable improvement in the Ride. 7K is $5,700 8K is $6,200


Danny how far out in advance did you make an appointment for your MORRyde installation? .... thinking about it.
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby Whooboy » Thu May 18, 2017 7:06 pm

Mine goes in Monday to have new Equa-flexes, and new "never fail" bolts and bushings installed. I got new springs in December of '14. This will be the third set of hardware in 90,000 miles. It'll be ready to go by the Tyler rally.
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby RamblinReck » Thu May 18, 2017 7:43 pm

Whooboy wrote:Mine goes in Monday to have new Equa-flexes, and new "never fail" bolts and bushings installed. I got new springs in December of '14. This will be the third set of hardware in 90,000 miles. It'll be ready to go by the Tyler rally.

I was going to have the Lippert Equa-Flex installed here in Whitehorse, but they will raise the height of my rig by one inch. I'm already 13.4, tall enough for me.
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby Danny & Cheryl » Thu May 18, 2017 8:44 pm

George I made my appointment in Jan for a late March install. I arrived on Saturday for a Monday install. To take advantage of a winter 10% discount, you can go on their website and email or call sales and ask about when they can get you in. Yes it's a lot of money but you won't be sorry. The ride is unreal. Ask skip or jack
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby RamblinReck » Thu May 18, 2017 8:53 pm

Danny & Cheryl wrote:George I made my appointment in Jan for a late March install. I arrived on Saturday for a Monday install. To take advantage of a winter 10% discount, you can go on their website and email or call sales and ask about when they can get you in. Yes it's a lot of money but you won't be sorry. The ride is unreal. Ask skip or jack

Thanks Danny, with IS and disk brakes, that is a nice setup.
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby Whooboy » Fri May 19, 2017 8:10 am

RamblinReck wrote:I was going to have the Lippert Equa-Flex installed here in Whitehorse, but they will raise the height of my rig by one inch. I'm already 13.4, tall enough for me.


How can you determine how much installing Equa-Flex will add to your overall height? Mine came with Equa-Flex as original equipment. When I upgraded to 8,000 pound axles, I also upgraded the Equa-Flex. When I wore them out, I replaced them, and now I'm replacing them again.

As far as rig height is concerned, I know I can get under a placated 13' 5" railroad overpass--don't ask me how I know.

You've got to have room for the suspension to move under the trailer. You can look under mine and see where suspension parts have banged against the frame of the trailer.
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby RamblinReck » Fri May 19, 2017 9:01 am

Whooboy wrote:
RamblinReck wrote:I was going to have the Lippert Equa-Flex installed here in Whitehorse, but they will raise the height of my rig by one inch. I'm already 13.4, tall enough for me.


How can you determine how much installing Equa-Flex will add to your overall height? Mine came with Equa-Flex as original equipment. When I upgraded to 8,000 pound axles, I also upgraded the Equa-Flex. When I wore them out, I replaced them, and now I'm replacing them again.

As far as rig height is concerned, I know I can get under a placated 13' 5" railroad overpass--don't ask me how I know.

You've got to have room for the suspension to move under the trailer. You can look under mine and see where suspension parts have banged against the frame of the trailer.


Nice upgrade to the 8k axles. Are you running H tires? Did you have Lippert axles or Dexter?

We measured the difference between what I have (dexter) and the Equa-flex, and from the center mounting hole down to the horizontal of the two leaf spring attachment arms was one taller than the dexter.
Waiting for the welder to weld a new leaf spring hanger as I type......
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby Whooboy » Fri May 19, 2017 2:03 pm

The axles are Lippert. I upgraded the axle size when I upgraded to disk brakes back in '11. They had the never-lube bearings. I had a bearing go bad in Alaska; Pat changed it for me in the Denali RV Park. When I got back to the lower 48, I reported the problem to Lippert and they replaced the axles, brakes, and springs at no charge. We did that in December of '14. Since then, I've put 23,500 miles on the new axles. When I had the bearings repacked last month, we noticed the rubbers in the Equa-Flex coming apart and the holes elongating in the shackles. So I'm having all of that replaced next week with new "never-fail" bolts and bushings. We'll see what "never-fail" means.

I haven't upgraded to H-rated tires yet. Still running the G614s. I may upgrade to 17.5 tires and wheels later this summer.
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Re: New Leaf Springs

Postby RamblinReck » Sat May 20, 2017 8:15 am

Whooboy wrote:The axles are Lippert. I upgraded the axle size when I upgraded to disk brakes back in '11. They had the never-lube bearings. I had a bearing go bad in Alaska; Pat changed it for me in the Denali RV Park. When I got back to the lower 48, I reported the problem to Lippert and they replaced the axles, brakes, and springs at no charge. We did that in December of '14. Since then, I've put 23,500 miles on the new axles. When I had the bearings repacked last month, we noticed the rubbers in the Equa-Flex coming apart and the holes elongating in the shackles. So I'm having all of that replaced next week with new "never-fail" bolts and bushings. We'll see what "never-fail" means.

I haven't upgraded to H-rated tires yet. Still running the G614s. I may upgrade to 17.5 tires and wheels later this summer.


Ah, thanks for sharing your setup. Sounds like you have it very much "dialed-in". My axles are Dexter, and I had two bolts that did "fail". I'm thinking about our suspension options.
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